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Ghost 2011 Preview

by Alasdair MacLennan
Dec 12, 2010 at 16:25

Recently Pinkbike were among a handful of UK journalists invited to Glentress in the Scottish Borders for the launch of the 2011 range from Ghost Bikes. A brand from Germany, they were introduced to the UK at the start of this year and things are looking good with some sharp products, a successful Cross Country race team and some killer spec for the money.

We took a look at the RT and AMR models, so read on for our first impressions:

Taking a glance at the Ghost catalog and you are inundated with acronyms, some for technology which is pretty common, but underneath all that are a few ideas which are a little more interesting.  Firstly, let's take a look at SCL.  This is something that the average rider will perhaps not see much benefit from, but should you be shorter or taller than that average then there is a good chance you will appreciate SCL.  With SCL (Specific Chainstay Length) the chainstay length is increased or decreased to suit the specific frame size in question.  It isn't a huge difference, but it helps to reduce the effect of chainstay length feeling too short on the large sizes and too long on the small.  And for proof that it matters?  World Cup racer Ben Reid once chopped the swingarm down on his small sized bike so that it gave a more balanced ride.  As they say
Taking a glance at the Ghost catalog and you are inundated with acronyms, some for technology which is pretty common, but underneath all that are a few ideas which are a little more interesting. Firstly, let's take a look at SCL. This is something that the average rider will perhaps not see much benefit from, but should you be shorter or taller than that average then there is a good chance you will appreciate SCL. With SCL (Specific Chainstay Length) the chainstay length is increased or decreased to suit the specific frame size in question. It isn't a huge difference, but it helps to reduce the effect of chainstay length feeling too short on the large sizes and too long on the small. And for proof that it matters? World Cup racer Ben Reid once chopped the swingarm down on his small sized bike so that it gave a more balanced ride. As they say "It's all in the details..."
 The two bikes featured in this article also feature the BB30 standard, press fit bottom brackets which are being utilized increasingly by manufacturers.  This creates larger welds and thus correspondingly stronger and stiffer joins for  the tubes and pivots that sprout from the BB shell.  While stiffness is the key in this area, you obviously want your suspension to be compliant and free moving.  To this end Ghost have fitted both ends of the shock with an Enduro needle bearing arrangement which features hardened steel pins alongside plastic seals and o-rings to keep dirt and grime out; improving both performance and longevity.
The two bikes featured in this article also feature the BB30 standard, press fit bottom brackets which are being utilized increasingly by manufacturers. This creates larger welds and thus correspondingly stronger and stiffer joins for the tubes and pivots that sprout from the BB shell. While stiffness is the key in this area, you obviously want your suspension to be compliant and free moving. To this end Ghost have fitted both ends of the shock with an Enduro needle bearing arrangement which features hardened steel pins alongside plastic seals and o-rings to keep dirt and grime out; improving both performance and longevity.
 Starting with the AMR, the basic structure of this bike remains unchanged going into 2011; 120mm travel front and rear with a 69 degree head angle and a 60mm stroke shock which produces a 2:1 leverage ratio.  With plenty of options for spec to suit most budgets, this is a bike that doesn't feel nearly as twitchy as the head angle would lead you to suspect.  Those who had ridden this bike previously suggested that it used its travel well and it does, feeling balanced and supple yet still having the sprightliness associated with having a little less travel.
Starting with the AMR, the basic structure of this bike remains unchanged going into 2011; 120mm travel front and rear with a 69 degree head angle and a 60mm stroke shock which produces a 2:1 leverage ratio. With plenty of options for spec to suit most budgets, this is a bike that doesn't feel nearly as twitchy as the head angle would lead you to suspect. Those who had ridden this bike previously suggested that it used its travel well and it does, feeling balanced and supple yet still having the sprightliness associated with having a little less travel.
Although we were riding in ice and snow, which is always going to be a bit of a mask to the real traits of a bike, the AMR felt stable at speed, slid predictably (partly down to the Schwalbe Nobby Nic tyres fitted) and was quick to get the power down out of corners.  The bars were perhaps a little narrower than a gravity orientated rider would choose to use and the stem a little longer, but neither were to the detriment of the bike and would suit the general buyer of this bike well.  Do you buy the bike for the terrain you want to ride or the terrain you actually ride?
Although we were riding in ice and snow, which is always going to be a bit of a mask to the real traits of a bike, the AMR felt stable at speed, slid predictably (partly down to the Schwalbe Nobby Nic tyres fitted) and was quick to get the power down out of corners. The bars were perhaps a little narrower than a gravity orientated rider would choose to use and the stem a little longer, but neither were to the detriment of the bike and would suit the general buyer of this bike well. Do you buy the bike for the terrain you want to ride or the terrain you actually ride?



 The RT is the newly revised bike in the range for 2011 and is sharper than the AMR although visually they share very similar design cues.  With 20mm less travel, the head angle is also XC race inspired at 69.5 degrees.  Sitting on it for the first time you are left with no doubts as to its intentions.  Narrow and flat bars, a long stem and a low front end thanks to a set of 100mm Fox 32 FITs all combine to create this feeling.
The RT is the newly revised bike in the range for 2011 and is sharper than the AMR although visually they share very similar design cues. With 20mm less travel, the head angle is also XC race inspired at 69.5 degrees. Sitting on it for the first time you are left with no doubts as to its intentions. Narrow and flat bars, a long stem and a low front end thanks to a set of 100mm Fox 32 FITs all combine to create this feeling.
 Get it on some flowing single track and it easily holds technical lines and takes the edges off the hits well, even without taking into account that its total travel is less than the sag some bikes run.  Using the Enduro needle bearings in the shock as mentioned earlier helps to keep things supple, but no doubt also helping is the 2:1 leverage ratio to push the RP23 through its stroke.
Get it on some flowing single track and it easily holds technical lines and takes the edges off the hits well, even without taking into account that its total travel is less than the sag some bikes run. Using the Enduro needle bearings in the shock as mentioned earlier helps to keep things supple, but no doubt also helping is the 2:1 leverage ratio to push the RP23 through its stroke.
 All of this combines to make the RT a lightning quick bike that uses what travel it has to great effect based on our brief ride.  Throw some wider bars and a shorter stem on there and you will improve its surefootedness on the descents while still allowing for all the benefits of the sharp and sprightly chassis out the corners.
All of this combines to make the RT a lightning quick bike that uses what travel it has to great effect based on our brief ride. Throw some wider bars and a shorter stem on there and you will improve its surefootedness on the descents while still allowing for all the benefits of the sharp and sprightly chassis out the corners.



 Materials play an important role in any bike, from the overall picture of whether it's steel, aluminum or carbon, to the more detailed look which tells you what particular composition your chosen material has.  In the case of Ghost they offer the vast majority of their bikes not only in multiple parts kit levels, but also with a choice of frame materials which should make it easy to find the bike for you.  Starting with a full aluminum  frame, at the top is the full Carbon frame which is signified by the Lector name.  But just below that is a halfway house which features a carbon front triangle for significant weight saving (about 600g in the case of the AMR) which is matched with an aluminum rear triangle to help make it a little friendlier to your wallet.
Materials play an important role in any bike, from the overall picture of whether it's steel, aluminum or carbon, to the more detailed look which tells you what particular composition your chosen material has. In the case of Ghost they offer the vast majority of their bikes not only in multiple parts kit levels, but also with a choice of frame materials which should make it easy to find the bike for you. Starting with a full aluminum frame, at the top is the full Carbon frame which is signified by the Lector name. But just below that is a halfway house which features a carbon front triangle for significant weight saving (about 600g in the case of the AMR) which is matched with an aluminum rear triangle to help make it a little friendlier to your wallet.
 The all carbon AMR saves a further 300g over the half fat model.  What really stands out on all of these is just how similar both the carbon and alumiium models are visually thanks to a tubeset that has seen extensive use of hydroforming.  This makes it virtually indistinguishable from the carbon framed options so it takes either a very close look or 20/20 vision to tell them apart at anything more than a few paces.
The all carbon AMR saves a further 300g over the half fat model. What really stands out on all of these is just how similar both the carbon and alumiium models are visually thanks to a tubeset that has seen extensive use of hydroforming. This makes it virtually indistinguishable from the carbon framed options so it takes either a very close look or 20/20 vision to tell them apart at anything more than a few paces.
When it comes to the parts kit level on each of these bikes it's fair to say that you get a lot for your money with no short changing going on by hiding cheap components away where you won't notice them.  If it says yo''ll be getting full Shimano XT then that is just what you shall have, right through to the cassette, front derailleur and hubs.  It helps with weight, it helps with longevity and avoids the occasionally contentious point of window dressing that can arise when a predominantly SLX level bike is fitted with an XTR derailleur because that is what a buyer is likely to notice first.  Additionally, all bikes are built using either complete SRAM or Shimano components so that everything matches.  Also matching is the full Ritchey finishing kit on the upper models and Ghost branded Alex rims across the range.
When it comes to the parts kit level on each of these bikes it's fair to say that you get a lot for your money with no short changing going on by hiding cheap components away where you won't notice them. If it says yo''ll be getting full Shimano XT then that is just what you shall have, right through to the cassette, front derailleur and hubs. It helps with weight, it helps with longevity and avoids the occasionally contentious point of window dressing that can arise when a predominantly SLX level bike is fitted with an XTR derailleur because that is what a buyer is likely to notice first. Additionally, all bikes are built using either complete SRAM or Shimano components so that everything matches. Also matching is the full Ritchey finishing kit on the upper models and Ghost branded Alex rims across the range.
[PI=5959524 size=l align=c] We were certainly left impressed with the bikes for their clean looks, attention to detail, high spec and price. From our brief rides they performed well and showed promise that we would love to explore further. Possibly of greater interest to the bigger hitting community will be three bikes on the cusp of being available. The first of which is the new AMR Plus which will feature 150mm of travel and is slated to be launched early 2011. Then of course are the 4x and downhill models. Unfortunately neither of these were available at the launch, but we will be doing what we can to get some saddle time on these and of course, when we do, you'll all be the first to know about what we think!

Pricing AMR Lector 8700 (Carbon) £2,999 and the RT Lector 7700 (Aluminium/Carbon) £2,799

For full information and your nearest dealer check out www.ghost-bikes.com



We enjoyed our few first rides on the Ghost bikes, but we'd like to hear from some owners. How do you like your Ghost bike, and why did you buy it? Share your stories below!
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73 Comments

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flag etabs Plus (Dec 12, 2010 at 16:30)
 does it not look like a trek remedy??
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flag nickf (Dec 12, 2010 at 17:36)
 looks are everything
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flag airsoftesneeto (Dec 15, 2010 at 1:50)
 couldnt agree more, i think this bike looks killer but with all the bike companies out there bikes are all gonna start looking the same
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flag RaleighVoid (Dec 15, 2010 at 2:39) (Below Threshold) show comment
 that RT Lector wants to be a SS bike!
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flag iambike4lyf (Dec 15, 2010 at 2:47)
 wasn't till around the 4th picture till i realised it wasnt a new trek model
still, thats a lush bike!
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flag airtym (Dec 15, 2010 at 2:51) (Below Threshold) show comment
 Trek rip off
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flag richierocket (Dec 15, 2010 at 4:13)
 So...
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flag Bobeck (Dec 15, 2010 at 4:51)
 more like lapierre, but it's still cool
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flag Rattsl (Dec 15, 2010 at 5:37)
 Suspension design...FSR?

Pivot on the rear is in front of axle and under...an FSR trait. Regard to this pic. http://www.socaltrailriders.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=33084&stc=1&d=1230024190
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flag pperini (Dec 15, 2010 at 5:41)
 yes its an FSR rear triangle...and no this bike doesnt look like a Trek, the Trek looks like this...the Ghosts look like that for a long time now..u just dont know it because 99% of u havent even ever heard of this brand...
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flag Rattsl (Dec 15, 2010 at 5:46)
 Well..on the Trek thing, I think everyone has had a main triangle look like that. Vertical shock placement and all. Kinda hard to say what it looks like, but it does look like a Remedy, and the Remedy does look like it.
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flag KennyKillsIt (Dec 15, 2010 at 7:11)
 The geo of it is pretty common, the head tube is what really looks like a trek to me (or the other way around, as pperini pointed out, i barely know the brand). That and the upper link, it looks exactly like a Trek EVO link O.O
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flag Bgilks132 (Dec 15, 2010 at 7:39)
 Yep i was just gona say that it is a painted trek
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flag DARKSTAR63 (Dec 15, 2010 at 7:43)
 Im usually a big fan of "it looks like" comments. But this thing screams Trek Remedy.
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flag hugslyh (Dec 15, 2010 at 9:10)
 yep it looks like a trek remedy
tbh when ghost anounced there downhill bike i wasnt really look at this but still good bike
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flag nolanvanderheyden (Dec 15, 2010 at 10:18)
 Trek anyone?
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flag Bgilks132 (Dec 15, 2010 at 10:45)
 The geo looks the same to.
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flag chubby5000 (Dec 15, 2010 at 12:11)
 I think it looks like a Karpiel Armaggedon.
Or a bit like a bottle of Pepto Bismal half empty.
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flag me2menow (Dec 15, 2010 at 15:46)
 the only thing that even looks like a trek is the top tube curve and the paint job.
rattsl's probably the only one on the dot, and theyve clearly put a ton of original thought into the features. the ride looks super refined.
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flag ELLIS-831 (Dec 15, 2010 at 19:52)
 seriously amazing looking bikes!
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flag Bgilks132 (Dec 15, 2010 at 21:58)
 The geo is the exact same i wouldnt be surprised if if trek sue's them because trek has that desighn patentd
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flag Rattsl (Dec 15, 2010 at 22:00)
 Like it matters really...their problem, nothing we can do, so don't worry about it.
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flag letsgetit Plus (Dec 16, 2010 at 7:56)
 They are actually pretty sweet bikes to ride, the AMR plus actually bumps the travel to 140 they pedal well and are deceptively light weight. @ pperini Ghost didn't go to the FSR rear triangle and suspension until just last year. They had an under the top tube double pivot design pre 2009. Still a sweet bike though even the 09. A buddy of mine rides the 180mm Northshore, wich is also a nice sturdy decender.
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flag banshee-ripper (Dec 16, 2010 at 21:35)
 Alls I say is finally someone other than Brent Foes realising the benefits of 2:1 suspension ratio!

And it's not like a trek in two ways: A No ABP, and B No Floating Shock!
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flag ridetrek7 (Dec 18, 2010 at 10:46)
 looks like treks evo link
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flag ninjaty (Dec 15, 2010 at 7:58)
 This bike has a couple cool features that most of you overlook. BB30 is a great innovation taken from road racing and applied to mountain biking. It's lighter and the narrower Q-Factor allows for the rider to pedal more efficiently by getting more direct power to the pedals. 3D Forged drop outs, and torx bolts around the pivots. But I agree, at first glance it looks trek...ish
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flag cesalec (Dec 15, 2010 at 12:30)
 I have come across them in Austria, and all I can say, these are great bikes, although I wasnt much into the old look of the Ghost bikes. This one looks nice, sadly I dont like FSR bikes.

All the american friends are screaming "trek", (and yes there might be a slight similarity , as with many other brands) but dont be narrow minded folks, this brand "Ghost" has been around for quite a long time in Europe, and is one of the best selling brands with German quality. Im am pretty confident they sell more bikes in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and Italy than Trek does.
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flag mountguitars (Dec 16, 2010 at 1:26)
 the front triangle does look like a trek but if you know a thing or two about suspension technology, you would say that this is an FSR suspension equipped bike. check out the pivot on the chain stay near the rear wheel drop outs. you guys fail! hehehe.
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flag NS-FreeRider (Dec 13, 2010 at 3:35)
 I have 2 Ghosts. A FR Nortshore and a SE MidSeason, really love to rides both bikes.
A characteristic of Ghost bikes is the good geometrie and they also have a great price/quality proportion.
I think they also look great!
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flag martino (Dec 15, 2010 at 2:41)
 This may look similar to the Trek, but the rear suspension designs of the two bikes are very different.
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flag BigRedBike (Dec 15, 2010 at 11:58)
 Bikes are all being made in the same place. Going to be lots of "industry standard" tube sections to cut down on manufacturing costs. The real important thing I guess you could say is the little tweaks that each company has on the same design. Looks like a cool bike to me. Would have to ride it to say anything more.
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flag mikeybike (Dec 15, 2010 at 18:43)
 Looks like a few other bikes out there but then who the hell cares. Suspension design will eventually come closer and closer together from lots of major manufacturers. The FSR has been a standard for some time now and the Trek ABP is quickly gaining. This has the Specialized FSR with a "Trek like" front triangle. It's all good, both platforms are proving to be great so why not. Good job Ghost!
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flag pukey (Dec 15, 2010 at 10:44)
 I've had i Ghost SE9000 for 3 weeks now and its amazing, can't fault it in anyway.and they are excellent value for money and much higher spec compared to Trek, Specialized.......etc!!!! for the same money!!! if your interested in buying a Ghost, I was supplied by Pete Yates Cycles, (www.pyatescycles.co.uk).
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flag summit800 (Dec 16, 2010 at 12:46)
 no offence but do you work at pete yates cycles by chance hah cause that sure sounded like some cheesy ass advertisement bull lol. if not well then im hoping your enjoying your bike
  • + 1
flag pukey (Dec 19, 2010 at 7:56)
 No I don't work for the shop, just really impressed with my new Ghost!!!!!!!!!!
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flag summit800 (Dec 19, 2010 at 8:08)
 lmfao. well thats awesome man. have fun!
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flag pukey (Dec 19, 2010 at 9:37)
 you should treat urself to a Ghost DH2011 4 xmas m8!!!!!!
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flag summit800 (Dec 19, 2010 at 10:34)
 if i had the money id be buying a 224 evo no questions asked
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flag pukey (Dec 19, 2010 at 11:22)
 ent you a Rocky Mountain man been from Canada!!! I've got a Rocky Flatline Pro and its rides like a dream!!
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flag summit800 (Dec 19, 2010 at 11:58)
 haha. we got this backwards. i should be ridding the cad rocky, you should be on my england built Oranges!
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flag Antron (Dec 15, 2010 at 2:40)
 It's good to see smaller companies making nice bikes, despite looking similar to other bikes.
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flag Laurence-CE (Dec 13, 2010 at 3:43)
 We sell Ghost at work and all I seem to hear is good things. Nice to see how they develop over the next few years.
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flag sloperider (Dec 16, 2010 at 11:38)
 wtf guys you cant compare these bikes to trek ye its a simular design but cmon guys trek licks balls ghost obviously does not.
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flag Lorien (Dec 15, 2010 at 11:27)
 I don't think there are enough labels plastered on the frame describing all their little tech features...
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flag pdxkid Plus (Dec 15, 2010 at 6:40)
 For the love of Pete! Could you please format the text differently???!!! White text on black background is killing my eyes!!!!
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flag spaced (Dec 15, 2010 at 2:48)
 Why not make an article about their dh bikes? They have some new stuff for 2011
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flag cloverleaf Plus (Dec 15, 2010 at 4:44)
 As the article states:

"Then of course are the 4x and downhill models. Unfortunately neither of these were available at the launch, but we will be doing what we can to get some saddle time on these and of course, when we do, you'll all be the first to know about what we think!"
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flag oceen246 (Dec 15, 2010 at 0:35)
 i like all those simplified fsr. Make bikes look so clean.
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flag Biscuitto (Dec 15, 2010 at 11:34)
 My favourite thing about this article? I know exactly where the photos were taken. And I mean in the same square metre. lol
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flag vt6spd (Dec 15, 2010 at 3:55)
 Anybody got a price on this bike?
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flag letsgetit Plus (Dec 16, 2010 at 7:58)
 They range from about 1900-3500 euro around here in germany. Their factory is about 30 minutes away.
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flag theriotact (Dec 15, 2010 at 17:37)
 is it just me or does this bike totally look like a trek version of the transition covert.. hahaha
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flag gporras (Dec 16, 2010 at 18:20)
 that ghost has soul...from a trek
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flag mrwhipp-e (Dec 15, 2010 at 12:32)
 lol a stick is holding it up
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flag ben13bm (Dec 15, 2010 at 10:32)
 Woop fot GT
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flag ddddhhhh (Dec 15, 2010 at 1:45)
 nice trek
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flag me2menow (Dec 15, 2010 at 15:46)
 nice ignorance
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flag Worm-Burner (Dec 20, 2010 at 23:00)
 nice sarcasm, eh?...
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flag guari (Dec 16, 2010 at 4:15)
 its a remedy
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flag mtbiker165 (Dec 15, 2010 at 5:48)
 looks like a trek remedy of fuel ex!
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flag motoman2 (Dec 15, 2010 at 6:19)
 whats up trek, oh oh oh i mean ghost! I kid I kid, very different bikes, definitely nice!
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flag summit800 (Dec 15, 2010 at 6:58)
 ugly, generic and mass produced probly at Giant Smile
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flag nunomelo77 (Dec 17, 2010 at 6:39)
 Dude, actually they have their own factory in Taiwan (QC and assembly in Germany), and actually they produce some alu frames for some well known brands, such as Lapierre and Haibike, as they're all part of the same group - Accell Group (google it).

[offtopic] BTW, did you now that a lot Specialized frames are built in Merida's factory in Taiwan? And that Santa Cruz carbon frames are produced in China? So what.... [/offtopic]

Word of advice: do some research before writing crap! Beer
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flag summit800 (Dec 17, 2010 at 8:19)
 maybe not made by giant but still mass produced in a similar way as i presumed. i didn't have to do research since just looking at the frame you could tell it was generic and mass produced just like i said. and u really think that i care that they make bikes for lapierre and haibike the fact is this thing itself is very mass produced and has a pretty generic trendy frame-set that is dam ugly. and yes i did know that santa cruz frames and specialized where made in taiwan and i just purchased a new jackal frame and i can tell you that it really isnt up with the old standards of santa cruz. for example the gusset on the top tube is cut on an angle and looks like shit. i just have preference for bikes made by the hands of hard working individuals trying to make a living off of their evolving ideas. instead of getting my bike made by someone who knows nothing about biking except that he can make a living off it. I understand quality control and the need of standards but im just not a fan of companies who pic up on trends, go overseas and see if they can acquire a lighter price in order to compete. its called being original and actually contributing to the sport instead of looking for a quick buck and finding lame ass ways to compete. its ohmost as bad as mobile phone companies and their shit ass competitive ways.
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